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Post by Blackwolf on Feb 10, 2014 17:24:20 GMT -5
Yeah Mudcat, I'm looking at you. Do you have the ROF skinpacks installed on your SSD? I ask because I have 55% space left, all games installed but my DCS and a few steam games. The 120 is doing well but I don't want to overload it. I'm saving up for a bigger one, 500 or 750mb. Its a lot of packs to load up if I do it. If it takes up that much room I may just hold off until I get the bigger SSD.
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Post by GreyWolf on Feb 10, 2014 18:01:50 GMT -5
I know that I do not have an SSD, but .....
I honestly think it a mistake to load your OS on that drive. Let me explain. Yeah, it boots faster, and it does read OS files faster, but ...
When you are gaming, the only files it needs to get from the regular OS HDD, are the DirectX, OpenGL, or other gaming specific files. But once they are read and in memory, all the rest of the data will be coming from the game folders/ directories.
You could/ should install your games and maybe your gaming tools, utilities, etc .. ie. Teamspeak, OSD tools, etc to the SSD,
But that is just me, someone that does not have an SSD, YET.
So 2 suggestions, First, do not allow Windows to use that drive for your pagefile.sys. It is a dynamic file and grows and shrinks unless you make it a static size. Better to put the pagefile.sys on a regular HDD. And get another SSD, and move all of your gaming stuff to that drive, and leave the original SSD with the OS on it, with room to grow.
Last thing, Why leave just Windows on that SSD ? You are going to be shocked at just how much room the lastest versions of Windows will take up after you have been using them a while, I ran across a thread the other night that asked just how big the Windows/winsxs folder would get, because it keeps growing with time. I have had Win7 installed less than a year and my winsxs folder is already 15,000+ files and over 7.8 GB. But I saw complaints that it was already in the 100+ GB range, and no real way to clean it out. So the OS drive, be it SSD or regular HDD, is going to get much fuller over time. So a 2nd SSD will all of your gaming stuff might be the way to go.
Really the last thing, I remember my first computer build, a friend that worked for an un-named telephone company, offered to let me have a HDD that was being replaced in one of their computers. When he came to the house with it I was shocked, It was a 50 MB SCSI drive, (not a typo, that is megabytes) , it was 10 inches wide, 15 inches long, and weighed in at almost 16 pounds, and required 5v@16amps to run ( IIRC ).
"What the hell am I suppose to do with this." I said.
He just grinned at me, real big. and said, "well I offered."
The huge HDD was real, but the suggestion that I use it was a joke, he went to his car and brought in a newer IDE drive, still 50 MB, but in the standard size we know today. I ran DOS 6.22 and then Windows 3.1 on that IDE drive for almost a year before I ran out of room and got a new one.
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Post by Blackwolf on Feb 11, 2014 13:33:55 GMT -5
I'm confused, the point of the ssd was to do away with the hdd at sometime. So I will need windows on the ssd. Its been pointed out to me that the ssd have a shelf life and also I could run the games off the hdd while the OS is on the ssd. I may give that a try. If that works I'm shitting in tall cotton.
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Post by Mudcat on Feb 11, 2014 14:13:13 GMT -5
I'm confused, the point of the ssd was to do away with the hdd at sometime. So I will need windows on the ssd. Its been pointed out to me that the ssd have a shelf life and also I could run the games off the hdd while the OS is on the ssd. I may give that a try. If that works I'm shitting in tall cotton. Well, I do know where there is some tall cotton if it comes to that
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Post by GreyWolf on Feb 11, 2014 21:42:20 GMT -5
The benefit of running games off of the SSD, is so that when the game needs a new texture or files, they load so fast that it does not make the game stutter. At least that is the idea. Most of the OS is loaded into memory at boot, and stays there in "resident memory". Then when programs load, they load into temporary memory space, ie. volatile or virtual memory. There are subtile diffences in memroy management over the years, and things have been changed/ optimized by newer OSes, but the basic use of, and allocation of memory, has been that way since DOS. SSD drives are not so much a new idea, but are a new technology, and I did not want to see your shiny new SSD fail too soon, because of some of the flaws with SSDs. They are notorious for a short life span, ie. running a pagefile.sys on one. Unless you listen to the makers of SSDs, and then everything is "just fine". * See "buying their latest and greatest " in the video cards thread. To clarify, I am not trying to tell you what you must do, just pointing out alternative ideas about use. BTW, the "shitting in tall cotton" literally meant, that you could shit, without everyone seeing your ass hanging out. But it is used as an expression of happiness. Funny how that works out.
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Post by Mudcat on Feb 11, 2014 22:24:03 GMT -5
Works, as I literally meant, I do indeed know where there currently is some tall cotton
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Post by GreyWolf on Feb 11, 2014 23:02:19 GMT -5
Works, as I literally meant, I do indeed know where there currently is some tall cotton Right. And I know where there will be some tall cotton in about 6 or 7 months, as cotton planting season does not even begin for another month or so around here. and then it will take a several months to get "tall cotton". But reference of the quote, and my response to it, was taken directly from BW's post where he said "If that works I'm shitting in tall cotton." Not to your post.
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